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DexyStorm: added info that bbks often times doesn't properly fulfill their orders

2025-12-24T03:33:02Z

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	There are several known clone sellers, each with their own pros and cons. If you find a website which sells clones and it is not listed below in this chapter, consider it an unsafe website.		There are several known clone sellers, each with their own pros and cons. If you find a website which sells clones and it is not listed below in this chapter, consider it an unsafe website.

	====[~~http~~://~~bbksbalisong~~.com/ ~~BBKS~~]====		====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====

	~~BBKS~~ is ~~usually the first~~ to ~~stock~~ new ~~clone~~ releases.		Clisong is very slow when it comes to updating their website when a new balisong releases, often times being months behind release schedule.

	The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.		The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.

	====[~~https~~://~~clisong~~.com/ ~~Clisong~~]====		====[http://bbksbalisong.com/ BBKS]====

			Many users have reported that only part of their order was fulfilled. Sometimes spare hardware kits were missing and other times BBKS didn't ship the handles and blade separately even though the user has specifically paid for this service.

	~~Clisong~~ is ~~very slow when it comes~~ to ~~updating their website when a~~ new ~~balisong~~ releases~~, often times being months behind release schedule~~.		BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases.

	The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.		The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.

DexyStorm at 06:32, 21 December 2025

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	====[https://slash2gash.com/ Slash2Gash]====		====[https://slash2gash.com/ Slash2Gash]====

	S2G is the only reseller (limited to "legal" clones) that has their headquarters located in America. Because of that, they can offer much faster shipping time and some other benefits which include higher QC, insurance and overall reduced risk as a trade off for their higher prices.		S2G is the only reseller (limited to what America considers "legal" clones) that has their headquarters located in America. Because of that, they can offer much faster shipping time and some other benefits which include higher QC, insurance and overall reduced risk as a trade off for their higher prices.

	Average delivery is 2-3 business days. They only ship within America.		Average delivery is 2-3 business days. They only ship within America.

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2025-12-20T03:33:02Z

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	A balisong is considered a clone if the design has been copied, with very little or no changes from the original.		A balisong is considered a clone if the design has been copied, with very little or no changes from the original.

			In the US, "Clones" may also be expanded into two categories of "legal" and "not legal". Any balisong that copies the original 1:1, has fake logos or has less than "3 significant changes" would fall into the "not legal" for sale category as it could be used to deceive an unsuspecting buyer not familiar with the differences. These "not legal" balisongs are usually referred to as "counterfit" or "knockoff" instead of a "clone". The balisong community however has largely decided to call every type of "copy", a clone, instead of differentiating between "clone" and "counterfit".
	~~Expanded Definition:~~

	"Clones" may also be expanded into two categories of "legal" vs "not legal" ~~for sale in~~ the ~~US (hence why "counterfeits" can only be originally purchased from international sites, which are not governed by US law).~~

	~~This means anything~~ 1:1, fake logos or less than "3 significant changes" would fall into the "not legal" category ~~of sale in the US. Those models would now technically~~ be ~~referred to as "counterfeit" or "knockoff" with the intent~~ to deceive ~~and are potentially harmful to~~ an unsuspecting buyer not familiar with the differences ~~(We,~~ as a community ~~have the moral obligation~~ to ~~be honest with our fellow flippers regarding any private reselling). Be aware~~ of ~~potential scammers~~.

	==Quality==		==Quality==

	Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often manufactured in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. Clone balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances/QC as a tradeoff for the lower starting price. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel and potential of receiving a defect or poorly tuned ~~piece~~. Clones often use inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges ~~and the factory workers don't get paid enough to care about correcting defects~~. This is what we call "clone roulette" sometimes you get a good ~~one~~, sometimes you get a bad ~~one~~. When investing in clones, basic tuning knowledge/maintenance and proper tools will make a huge difference in your experience.		Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often manufactured in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. Clone balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances/QC as a tradeoff for the lower starting price. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel and potential of receiving a defect or poorly tuned unit. Clones often use inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges. This is what the community tends to call "clone roulette"; sometimes you get a good balisong, sometimes you get a bad balisong. When investing in clones, basic tuning knowledge/maintenance and proper tools will make a huge difference in your experience.


	A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But nowadays some clones are very high-quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.		A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But nowadays some clones are very high-quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.
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	BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases.		BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases.

			The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.

	====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====		====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====

	Clisong is very slow when it comes to updating their website when a new balisong releases, often times being months behind release schedule.		Clisong is very slow when it comes to updating their website when a new balisong releases, often times being months behind release schedule.

			The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.

	====[https://onebalisong.com/ One Balisong]====		====[https://onebalisong.com/ One Balisong]====

	Lots of users have reported never receiving their orders.		Lots of users have reported never receiving their orders.

	One Balisong offers a wide selection of balisongs, including some not found on other clone seller ~~websides~~.		One Balisong offers a wide selection of balisongs, including some not found on other clone seller websites.


	~~[https://slash2gash.com/ '''Slash2Gash''']~~

	S2G is the only American reseller (limited to "legal" models free of fake logos) and offers a higher price as a tradeoff for higher QC, faster shipping, insured and overall reduced risk being the only Domestic option (US shipping only).

	~~Average delivery time is 2 or 3 "business days" (Next Day Air is available).~~


	~~'''Please Note:''' Any international site will all experience approximately the same~~ delivery speed, which varies widely due to potential customs delays/international risks + your specific location. Some buyers have reported as early as 1 week (rare occasion) compared to the latest reddit post just reported a ridiculous 4 ~~months (which is the opposite rare occasion)~~.		The average delivery time is 3-4 weeks.

			====[https://slash2gash.com/ Slash2Gash]====

	~~According~~ to ~~USPS: '''1 to 4 weeks'''~~		S2G is the only reseller (limited to "legal" clones) that has their headquarters located in America. Because of that, they can offer much faster shipping time and some other benefits which include higher QC, insurance and overall reduced risk as a trade off for their higher prices.

	~~The average~~ delivery ~~time for USPS First~~-~~Class Package International from China to the USA is typically 1 to 4 weeks~~. ~~= be patient when ordering international~~.		Average delivery is 2-3 business days. They only ship within America.

	===Scam Websites===		===Scam Websites===

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2025-12-19T20:02:58Z

Explanation: you can't have a list of legit sites without the only American legit site, and also much further elaboration of terms and shipping experiences to better educate the community

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	==Explanation==		==Explanation==

	A balisong is considered a clone if the design has been copied, with very little or no changes from the original.		A balisong is considered a clone if the design has been copied, with very little or no changes from the original.


			Expanded Definition:

			"Clones" may also be expanded into two categories of "legal" vs "not legal" for sale in the US (hence why "counterfeits" can only be originally purchased from international sites, which are not governed by US law).

			This means anything 1:1, fake logos or less than "3 significant changes" would fall into the "not legal" category of sale in the US. Those models would now technically be referred to as "counterfeit" or "knockoff" with the intent to deceive and are potentially harmful to an unsuspecting buyer not familiar with the differences (We, as a community have the moral obligation to be honest with our fellow flippers regarding any private reselling). Be aware of potential scammers.

	==Quality==		==Quality==

	Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often ~~manifactured~~ in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. ~~Clones~~ balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel. Clones often ~~unse~~ inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges.		Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often manufactured in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. Clone balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances/QC as a tradeoff for the lower starting price. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel and potential of receiving a defect or poorly tuned piece. Clones often use inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges and the factory workers don't get paid enough to care about correcting defects. This is what we call "clone roulette" sometimes you get a good one, sometimes you get a bad one. When investing in clones, basic tuning knowledge/maintenance and proper tools will make a huge difference in your experience.

	A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But ~~nowdays~~ some clones are very high quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.
			A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But nowadays some clones are very high-quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.

	==Clone Sellers==		==Clone Sellers==
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	One Balisong offers a wide selection of balisongs, including some not found on other clone seller websides.		One Balisong offers a wide selection of balisongs, including some not found on other clone seller websides.


			[https://slash2gash.com/ '''Slash2Gash''']

			S2G is the only American reseller (limited to "legal" models free of fake logos) and offers a higher price as a tradeoff for higher QC, faster shipping, insured and overall reduced risk being the only Domestic option (US shipping only).

			Average delivery time is 2 or 3 "business days" (Next Day Air is available).


			'''Please Note:''' Any international site will all experience approximately the same delivery speed, which varies widely due to potential customs delays/international risks + your specific location. Some buyers have reported as early as 1 week (rare occasion) compared to the latest reddit post just reported a ridiculous 4 months (which is the opposite rare occasion).


			According to USPS: '''1 to 4 weeks'''

			The average delivery time for USPS First-Class Package International from China to the USA is typically 1 to 4 weeks. = be patient when ordering international.

	===Scam Websites===		===Scam Websites===

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	Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often manifactured in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. Clones balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel. Clones often unse inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges.		Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often manifactured in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. Clones balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel. Clones often unse inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges.

	A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But nowdays some clones are ~~surprisingly~~ high quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.		A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But nowdays some clones are very high quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.

	==Clone Sellers==		==Clone Sellers==

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	====[http://bbksbalisong.com/ BBKS]====		====[http://bbksbalisong.com/ BBKS]====

	BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases~~. However, they have been known to ship incorrect items and "forget" to include spare hardware, with no forms of compensation~~.		BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases.

	====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====		====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====

	Clisong is very slow when it comes to updating their website when a new balisong releases, often times being months behind release schedule. ~~Users have reported their customer service being excellent and going as far as resending balisongs when local post offices lost the initial shipment.~~		Clisong is very slow when it comes to updating their website when a new balisong releases, often times being months behind release schedule.

	====[https://onebalisong.com/ One Balisong]====		====[https://onebalisong.com/ One Balisong]====

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	====[http://bbksbalisong.com/ BBKS]====		====[http://bbksbalisong.com/ BBKS]====

	BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases. However, they have been known to ship incorrect items and ~~have~~ "~~forgot~~" to include spare hardware, with no forms of compensation.		BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases. However, they have been known to ship incorrect items and "forget" to include spare hardware, with no forms of compensation.

	====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====		====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====

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DexyStorm: first edit of the clones article

2025-07-06T11:46:36Z

first edit of the clones article

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==Explanation==

A balisong is considered a clone if the design has been copied, with very little or no changes from the original.

==Quality==

Clones are usually much cheaper than authentic balisongs, as they are often manifactured in China. However, the lower price tag reflects the drop in quality. Clones balisongs typically use lower-grade materials and have worse tolerances. The biggest quality concern is the blade steel. Clones often unse inexpensive, poorly heat-treated steel with burnt cutting edges.

A couple of years ago, clones were complete junk. But nowdays some clones are surprisingly high quality flippers, often times rivaling authentic balisongs in terms of flipping performance.

==Clone Sellers==

===Legit Websites===

Before purchasing a clone, please read [[Authentic_VS_Clone|Authentic VS Clone]].

There are several known clone sellers, each with their own pros and cons. If you find a website which sells clones and it is not listed below in this chapter, consider it an unsafe website.

====[http://bbksbalisong.com/ BBKS]====

BBKS is usually the first to stock new clone releases. However, they have been known to ship incorrect items and have "forgot" to include spare hardware, with no forms of compensation.

====[https://clisong.com/ Clisong]====

Clisong is very slow when it comes to updating their website when a new balisong releases, often times being months behind release schedule. Users have reported their customer service being excellent and going as far as resending balisongs when local post offices lost the initial shipment.

====[https://onebalisong.com/ One Balisong]====

Lots of users have reported never receiving their orders.

One Balisong offers a wide selection of balisongs, including some not found on other clone seller websides.

===Scam Websites===

====Kolisong.com====

Kolisong has stolen credit card information and has [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_scam exit scammed] their customers.

====Armedshark.com====

[[Armed_Shark|Armed Shark]] does not have their own website. Armedshark.com is a fake website.